Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/20/1998 09:08 AM Senate HES

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      SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                   
                        February 20, 1998                                      
                            9:08 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                
                                                                               
Senator Gary Wilken, Chairman                                                  
Senator Loren Leman, Vice-Chairman                                             
Senator Lyda Green                                                             
Senator Jerry Ward                                                             
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                           
                                                                               
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                 
                                                                               
None                                                                           
                                                                               
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                             
                                                                               
PRESENTATION BY THE MIKE KELLY, PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF                 
ALASKA BOARD OF REGENTS                                                        
                                                                               
SENATE BILL NO. 203                                                            
"An Act requiring that phonics be taught in kindergarten through               
third grades in the public school system."                                     
                                                                               
PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                               
                                                                               
SB 203 - No previous Senate committee action.                                  
                                                                               
WITNESS REGISTER                                                               
                                                                               
Mr. Michael P. Kelly, President                                                
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                          
P.O. Box 71249                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska  99707                                                       
                                                                               
Jake Poole                                                                     
University of Alaska Fairbanks Alumni Assn.                                    
P.O. Box 750126                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska  99775                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on President Kelly's remarks                    
                                                                               
Senator Robin Taylor                                                           
Alaska State Capitol                                                           
Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of SB 203                                         
                                                                               
Mr. Jim Kirkpatrick                                                            
Coordinator of Community Programs &                                            
  Advisor of Reading and Reading Disabilities                                  
University of Texas at Austin                                                  
Charles A. Dana Center                                                         
1723 Westheimer Road                                                           
Houston, TX  77098                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on SB 203                                       
                                                                               
Eldo William Bergman Jr., M.D.                                                 
Executive Director                                                             
Texas Reading Institute                                                        
11271 Richmond, Suite 101                                                      
Houston, TX  77082                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Supports SB 203                                            
                                                                               
Ms. Kathy Hughes                                                               
Curriculum Director                                                            
Fairbanks North Star Borough School District                                   
520 5th Avenue                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on CSSB 203                                      
                                                                               
Ms. Terri Morrison                                                             
Fairbanks North Star Borough School District                                   
520 5th Avenue                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska  99701                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on CSSB 203                                    
                                                                               
Ms. Molli Sipe, Director                                                       
Bilingual Programs                                                             
Fairbanks North Star Borough School District                                   
520 5th Avenue                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Expressed concerns about phrases in CSSB 203              
                                                                               
Pamela Jensen                                                                  
P.O. Box 681                                                                   
Petersburg, Alaska  99835                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supports SB 203                                           
                                                                               
Donna Marsh                                                                    
Petersburg, Alaska  99835                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supports SB 203                                           
                                                                               
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                               
                                                                               
TAPE 98-13, SIDE A                                                             
Number 001                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN called the Senate Health, Education and Social                 
Services (HESS) Committee to order at 9:08 a.m.  Present were                  
Senators Wilken, Leman, Ward and Green.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN announced             
the first order of business would be a presentation by Mr. Mike                
Kelly, the President of the University of Alaska Board of Regents,             
and then the committee would take testimony on SB 203.                         
                                                                               
MR. MICHAEL P. KELLY, President of the University of Alaska (UA)               
Board of Regents, gave the following briefing on the status of the             
University of Alaska.  UA needs full funding of its budget.  It has            
experienced a $60 million decline since 1986.  During that time                
tuition has doubled and enrollment has increased by about 15                   
percent.  The cost of business has increased dramatically due to               
a myriad of reasons, some of which are code upgrades and ADA                   
compliance.  Aside from the tuition increases, UA is doing a much              
better job at recovery of federal overheads and is leveraging  its             
dollars better than it used to.  He warned that anymore budget cuts            
to the university system will do damage, and like any capital                  
intensive entity, the damage will not be apparent until after it               
has occurred.                                                                  
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY said the Board of Regents was established by the               
Constitution to run the University for a reason; that reason being             
to separate the University from things like the fluctuating price              
of oil.  UA recently conducted a survey for the purpose of                     
gathering baseline data on Alaskans' position in regard to the                 
University system.   The constituency among the UA family is large;            
the survey revealed that three out of four households contain                  
either an alumni or current student, and two out of three                      
respondents said they would like to see an increase in funding for             
the University.                                                                
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY stated the Board of Regents has consistently                   
received three directives from the Legislature.  The first is that             
the UA system needs to become more efficient.  He believes the                 
University is doing so and the Board of Regents wants the                      
University to be accountable as well as efficient.  The Board of               
Regents recently passed a resolution to capture another $10 million            
in administrative savings.                                                     
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY said the Legislature has repeatedly told the Board             
of Regents that it wants to hear Alaskans say increased funding for            
UA is a priority for them.  He believes the survey responses send              
that message.  The Board of Regents recently authorized a $200,000             
campaign to tell the story of the value of UA to Alaskans, as the              
social, economic, spiritual, and educational impact UA has on this             
state is tremendous.  The University's economic impact is so great             
it makes the economic impact of projects like the Fort Knox mine               
look like a tiny marble game.                                                  
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY noted the Legislature's third concern is that the              
University cannot be everything to everyone.  He explained that                
compared to peer states such as Wyoming, UA offers one-third to                
one-half fewer courses so it is not all things to all people.  He              
believes UA needs to improve its course offerings but to do so in              
an environment of continued budget cuts is very difficult.                     
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY maintained that UA is a great institution; the                 
survey shows how Alaskans feel about it.  Eighty-three percent of              
the alumni believe they received a good to excellent education.  In            
the household survey, many people said they will be sending their              
students to UA.                                                                
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD commented that he has household members who attend the            
University of Alaska.  He informed President Kelly that many                   
constituents have contacted him about the slow sinking of the                  
University system because of budget reductions.  He asked what                 
thought has been given to eliminating all of the smaller campuses              
and maintaining only the Anchorage and Fairbanks campuses.  He also            
asked whether the Board of Regents has considered privatizing some             
services of the university system to avoid sinking.                            
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY responded the Board of Regents is often asked that             
question.  SENATOR WARD interjected there were proposals to reduce             
the University budget even further last year, and that he would                
just as soon not lose services if some campuses can be                         
consolidated.                                                                  
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY pointed out that some legislators want another                 
campus on the Kenai Peninsula.  SENATOR WARD agreed that he wants              
another campus but does not want the whole system to fail because              
of it.  He said he is willing to look at those issues and asked                
President Kelly if he was.                                                     
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY said he believes that when one looks at the total              
economic expense, the regional centers, which serve the smaller                
villages by distance delivery, were built up over a period of time,            
one building at a time by the Legislature, in response to                      
educational needs in communities.  The University's delivery system            
is very good but because of Alaska's size, it will never be the                
most efficient thing on the block.  He said every Regent believes              
that because of problems in outlying areas such as unemployment,               
high suicide rates, and alcohol, substance, and domestic abuse,                
pulling the University out will cost the state, in dollars, much               
more than maintaining those campuses will.  He emphasized that the             
University system was built over time and that rather than kill it,            
it is time it be considered a funding priority.                                
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD commented that President Kelly will then be sharing in            
the sinking of the boat because the Legislature is looking at                  
consolidating departments and other unpleasant changes.  Unless the            
Legislature wants to dig into savings accounts to fund the                     
University, the funds simply are not at the level everyone would               
like to see.  SENATOR WARD thought the land base would solve a lot             
of UA's problems and he stated he would like to see that issue                 
revisited.  SENATOR WARD noted he supports all of the other areas,             
but does not want to see his daughter, who attends UAA, suffer as              
the boat sinks.  He stated the Kotzebue campus was created because             
of political maneuvering by people from that area.  He repeated his            
belief that the Board of Regents is trying to keep too big of a                
boat afloat right now.                                                         
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY said 75 percent of Alaskans believe that education             
is a top priority, and many legislators say the same thing when                
campaigning.  Alaska is sending fewer students to college than any             
of the western states that it compares with.  He stated he is                  
trying to convince the Legislature that education is a priority and            
that this economic engine, the University of Alaska, needs enough              
rocket fuel to keep it going.  If the Board of Regents starts                  
eliminating rural campuses, the University will become divided and             
the economic costs to the state will increase.  He stated he                   
understands Senator Ward's concerns, but he affirmed the Board of              
Regents' mission at this time is solidly behind the rural campuses.            
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD clarified he believes the Board of Regents should be              
and added he was referring to Southeast campuses as well when he               
referred to rural campuses.  He advised that the University will               
probably receive flat funding this year, but as oil prices decline,            
the Board of Regents is going to have to step up to the plate with             
the Legislature and figure out how to keep the University whole.               
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY responded that the term "flat funding" upsets him              
because in reality, it means a large cut to the University.  When              
the Board of Regents approves conservative salary increases                    
negotiated with employees, $4 million has to be pried from the                 
system, plus the normal fixed cost increases associated with one               
and one-half to two percent inflation, which totals a $7 million               
decrease.  He supports salary increases because the University has             
to pay market price, especially when tuition increases occur.  He              
asked legislators to support the Governor's budget, which only                 
amounts to half of what the University needs.                                  
                                                                               
SENATOR WARD repeated he believes the Board of Regents is going to             
have to look at consolidating as other states have done.                       
                                                                               
Number 286                                                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN expressed concern that President Kelly's presentation            
almost implied that the Legislature wants to cut the University's              
budget, when in reality the Legislature has held the University, as            
well as K-12 education, essentially harmless from reductions.  He              
explained that while the Legislature cut the overall state budget              
by about $130 million over the past two years, the University's                
funding actually increased last year.  The general fund component              
decreased slightly, but the increased authorization of student fees            
and tuition and an increase in federal funds resulted in an overall            
increase.  Compared to other parts of the budget, the University               
has actually fared better.  Agencies have taken an inordinate hit,             
and the formula programs have not been reduced proportionately.                
The Legislature's challenge is big; with oil at $12 per barrel the             
state could be facing a $1 billion deficit.                                    
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN believed that in order for the University to survive,            
alternate income sources, such as the land grant, need to be found.            
Had one of the proposals been adopted several years ago, the                   
University would have had the income stream to make a significant              
difference by this year.  He stated the tax credit program has been            
in place for 10 years and needs to be expanded, and that although              
UA believes no more tuition increases should occur, tuition only               
accounts for about 18 percent of the University's revenues.                    
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY clarified tuition accounts for over 20 percent of              
revenues.                                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN commented that the Legislature does not enjoy                    
decimating the University and that the two need to work together to            
formulate a solution that fits within a plan.                                  
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY maintained the Board of Regents is, and has been,              
working hard to generate outside sources, but has tapped the ones              
that make a dramatic enough difference.  He repeated that he                   
honestly believes if tuition is raised beyond the Higher Education             
Price Index amount, UA will price itself out of the market.   UA               
has lost 150 employees through the Retirement Incentive Program                
(RIP) and if the University takes another budget cut, it will not              
be able to backfill those positions.  He believes it was a mistake             
to send some of UA's brightest and best professionals down the road            
and replace them with newcomers.  He fears UA may not be able to               
replace them at all.                                                           
                                                                               
Number 364                                                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN stated her constituents most frequently ask about                
land disposal and land grant status: what that means and what the              
University is doing to fulfill it.  Her constituents have also                 
expressed concern about the University's lack of attention to, and             
turning away from, resource development and equitable funding for              
those programs.  This situation has been exacerbated by the lack of            
a particular resource appointment to the search committee.  She                
noted the University's policies in turn produce students who are               
non-progressive in their resource development orientation, and are             
more conservation oriented.  She asked what is required to maintain            
standing with the land grant for a university.                                 
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY replied he does not have the technical answer.  He             
said in regard to the Alaska Cooperative Extension, many positions             
are vacant due to the RIP program, and those positions could not be            
replaced quickly enough to maintain the same level of service.                 
President Kelly acknowledged he shares Senator Green's concerns as             
he is also a resource person, and that the survey results                      
demonstrate that people want training for resource development                 
jobs.  He believed the University is moving toward a resource                  
development orientation.  The Board of Regents has agreed to                   
appoint a new president who knows resources and does not                       
necessarily have to be an academic, although the candidate will                
have to garner the respect of the academy.                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN asked President Kelly to provide his statement in                
writing so that she can respond to people who have expressed                   
concern about impacts to the auxiliary programs that continue to               
support agriculture.  SENATOR GREEN then stated, "...and what I                
think was really compelling in the Cooperative Extension debate, or            
the discussion, was last year we changed its description in the                
budget and put in its own unit so it would not be diluted so it's              
effectiveness would stay for Cooperative Extension, but then there             
was the assessment of over 25 percent to that where others were not            
receiving 26 percent assessments.  That just does not play well for            
people who are your alums -- I mean they're just angry how specific            
programs that maybe a little less, there's no student ratio,                   
there's no graduates you can count to, but reliable programs that              
support resource issues in the state -- and I think if we go back              
to the mission of your University we have to continue that and I               
cannot state that -- I just can't state it strongly enough."                   
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN noted Senator Ellis had joined the committee.                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN said he hopes the Board of Regents conducts the                
presidential search with an open mind, and that they find the best             
person available, and that person is an Alaskan.                               
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked committee members if they received a copy of             
the UA questionnaire.  All members noted they did.                             
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated Representative Kelly has introduced a                   
resolution that pertains to the land grant status.  He said he is              
willing to carry the ball for the University when it comes time to             
get more land. Other committee members offered their support.                  
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY referred to Senator Green's statement about a                  
natural resource development orientation, and commented that two               
land bills have come before the Legislature but neither was                    
supported by the Governor.  The Board of Regents is trying the                 
federal route but there is some contention about a state match.                
While he has been on the Board, that fund has increased from $3                
million to $40 million.  He repeated the Board of Regents continues            
to try to find as many alternative sources of funding as possible              
and has done well so far.                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR asked why the Administration is opposed to Senator              
Murkowski's legislation when UA needs to have a foundation based in            
the wealth of this state.  Other major universities' endowments are            
generated through their land holdings and land management policies,            
providing them with a sustainable economic base.  He explained                 
Senator Murkowski's bill would offer about 500,000 acres of federal            
land and require the state to provide about a 250,000 acre match.              
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY commented that the optional match is the source of             
contention in Senator Murkowski's bill.                                        
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR questioned why Alaska cannot donate 250,000 acres to            
the University to use as part of its land base when the state                  
received about 103 million acres at the time of Statehood. He                  
pointed out if someone could identify where the resistance is                  
coming from, the Legislature could work with those people and                  
address their concerns.                                                        
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY indicated the Board of Regents needs the Senate's              
support of Representative Kelly's resolution as it sends a message             
to Congress.                                                                   
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN questioned whether the assessment fee is higher than             
normal on the amount of money that comes in for resource research              
through the USDA and other programs.  She also asked if that money             
is going to its intended location under its federal mandate.                   
                                                                               
PRESIDENT KELLY replied "We're clean as a hounds tooth on that --              
the Stanford issue -- on overheads and that sort of thing."                    
                                                                               
Number 500                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked President Kelly to validate information                  
contained in a letter distributed February 2, 1998 that pertained              
to the declining number of Alaskans attending UA.  He added that               
last year it was painfully clear that legislators were not speaking            
to the Regents, and vice versa, and he stated he believes President            
Kelly needs to help legislators understand the university system to            
improve it.  He thanked President Kelly for attending the meeting.             
                                                                               
MR. JAKE POOLE, Executive Director of the University of Alaska                 
Fairbanks Alumni Association, made the following statements on                 
behalf of all University alumni.  In the last two years the Board              
of Regents and the University administration have made successful              
efforts to organize and become more fiscally responsible.  One of              
his jobs is to educate the alumni as quickly as possible about what            
is going on because they are concerned about the impact the level              
of funding received over the past few years is having on the                   
University.  He is concerned that the University has reached the               
point where budget cuts have gone beyond the fat and muscle and are            
now into the bone, and the result will be that class size will                 
increase and the number of programs will decrease.  In the past,               
University administrations worked hard to keep the programs intact             
and other activities suffered as a result but the bottom line was              
to provide a quality education for the students.                               
                                                                               
MR. POOLE believed it is going to be very difficult to replace the             
instructors and staff who retired as the result of the RIP.   He               
stated one of the Regents is an alumni who is on the Evaluation                
Committee to hire the new president.  That committee is working to             
find a leader who will lead the University with the moral                      
conviction to ensure that Alaska has a top quality University.  He             
said that the alumni support legislation to increase the land base             
because although Alaska is one of the largest states, it has one of            
the smallest land grant universities.                                          
                                                                               
MR. POOLE offered to send committee members copies of a videotape              
made by the University's outreach working group that shows a number            
of activities occurring outside of the campus that support K-12                
schools, industry and commerce.  He concluded by saying the alumni             
understand what it means to have a balanced budget, but they want              
to ensure that students receive a quality education and that their             
alma mater continues to be a quality school.                                   
CHAIRMAN WILKEN announced the committee would take a brief at-ease.            
                                                                               
                  SB 203 - PHONICS CURRICULUM                                  
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR, sponsor of SB 203, asked the committee to adopt the            
proposed committee in lieu of the original bill.                               
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN moved to adopt CSSB 203 (version H).  SENATOR ELLIS              
objected for the purpose of an explanation.                                    
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR stated the crucial element of the bill is twofold.              
First it makes the statement that Alaskans want to make certain                
that our children know how to read and that this be done in a                  
specific way that has been proven through 30 years of test results.            
SB 203 provides a method to ensure that Alaskans know how our                  
children are doing by testing them for the first three years. To               
identify the 25 percent of students who score below average, Alaska            
should give nationally-normed tests to students in grades 1-3, and             
then provide individualized instruction in whatever method works               
best for each child identified.    If the results of those tests,              
which are conveyed to parents and to the school administration,                
show that a child is having difficulty, then that child will                   
receive special attention at an early age to avoid the tragedy of              
being pushed through a system handicapped by his/her inability.                
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR informed committee members that paragraph (c) was               
not included in the committee substitute.  That section would have             
required all teachers to receive phonics training in order to be               
retained in the profession.  He removed that provision because he              
believed it would cause a serious reaction.                                    
                                                                               
[NOTE:  ACCORDING TO SENATOR TAYLOR'S STAFF, PARAGRAPH (C) WAS IN              
A DRAFT VERSION OF SB 203, THEREFORE THAT PROVISION WAS NOT IN SB
203 OR CSSB 203.]                                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked if Senator Taylor's explanation applied to               
the difference between the original version and version H.  SENATOR            
TAYLOR said it did.  SENATOR ELLIS removed his objection to the                
adoption of the committee substitute.                                          
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR read the following sponsor statement.                           
     "The purpose of SB 203 is to provide foundation blocks and                
     tools necessary for good reading skills; phonic awareness,                
     decoding skills, and word attack skills.  It is the goal of               
     this legislation that every child should be reading at their              
     grade level by the end of the third grade or earlier, if                  
     possible.  All other subject matter taught in our schools is              
     dependent upon the student's ability to read and write.                   
     According to the National Right to Read Foundation, at the                
     beginning of the 20th Century, the literacy rate was almost               
     100 percent for those who had attended school.  You think back            
     to your grandfather's or grandparents' generation.  Many of               
     those people had fourth grade, fifth grade, eighth grade                  
     educations.  That was all they were able to obtain.  Everyone             
     of them could read.  About thirty years ago the whole language            
     approach was introduced into our public school systems.  The              
     results have been devastating.  Reading skills have gradually             
     deteriorated to the point where 50 percent of kids are reading            
     below grade level in the fourth grade, and it doesn't get any             
     better as they advance through the system.  We need a balanced            
     approach, not eliminating literature, but need to add                     
     intensive, systemic phonics.  Early assessment and intensive              
     one-on-one instruction at first and second grade levels for               
     those in the lower 25 percent will have dramatic results.                 
                                                                               
     Intensive one-on-one instruction in the first grade will                  
     usually require for that lower 25 percent about 40 hours of               
     actual work.  At the end of that time, they usually have                  
     brought up those young people to their full grade level.  If              
     you wait to do this, and wait to identify these young people              
     until they are in the fourth grade, national studies have                 
     shown that even with one-on-one instruction it then takes 80              
     hours, or twice the amount of resources time and effort to                
     bring that same child up to that grade level.  Teachers are               
     not the problem, they want to do a good job and they want kids            
     to learn to read.  They just need to have the right tools                 
     available to them.  Many teachers in our system today do not              
     know or really understand phonics.  They will need some help              
     and they'll need some training.  Phonics works, and if you                
     have any question, look at page 4 of the material -- the                  
     backup material, under the National Right to Read Foundation,             
     and the National Institute of Health Research Studies show                
     that systemic required phonics instruction results in more                
     favorable outcomes in reading than does a context-emphasis                
     approach.  On page 7 you'll find national statistics that are             
     very disturbing and Alaska is part of those statistics.                   
     Several other states have already passed legislation                      
     reintroducing intensive systemic phonics instruction back into            
     their school systems and there are excerpts that can be found             
     on page 19 of your backup material on those states.                       
                                                                               
     I'd like to call your attention to an article on page 23 from             
     the Seattle Times, dated February 15, which states 'This much             
     is decided.  The question is no longer whether to teach                   
     phonics but how often and how much.'  Also on page 26 of your             
     backup material there's an article about the use of the MRI in            
     determining how the brain works.  The scientists, lead by Yale            
     physicians, have identified the parts of the brain used in                
     reading.  By observing the flow of oxygen rich blood to                   
     working brain cells, they have found that people who know how             
     to sound out words can rapidly process what they see.  The                
     Dallas Morning News, January 23 this year, notes that Texas is            
     spending $79.12 million on remedial reading classes for its               
     Texas high school graduates that are entering their university            
     system.  According to the University of Alaska Vice President             
     Wendy Redman, 40 percent of Alaska students entering our                  
     university system are enrolled in remedial reading classes.               
     We don't have the cost figures yet on what that truly is, but             
     think of the cost in lost opportunity.  We're only talking                
     about the kids that are actually enrolling in college.  What              
     about those that have such poor reading skills they know they             
     can't go to college and don't even want to try -- that came               
     out of our educational system.  Shouldn't we better spend this            
     money up front in those first three years when the kids are               
     going through their educational process and learning the                  
     skill, not the art, of reading.                                           
                                                                               
     A good example of what intensive systemic phonics instruction             
     can do is a school in Skamania County, Washington, who scored             
     in the 20th percentile in reading on their test scores.  That             
     school was almost closed over that result.  Instead they hired            
     a half-time teacher to teach first, second, third, and fourth             
     grade teachers.  They brought in a mentor to teach the                    
     teachers how to teach reading.  Test scores went to 84.4                  
     percentile.  They were the top reading school in the entire               
     State of Washington.  Skamania --I've been there, it's a                  
     little town down in the South end of the State, down next to              
     the Columbia.  They went to the top school in the State by                
     hiring a half-time teacher to instruct their instructors on               
     how to teach reading.  Thank God they did.  What were they                
     doing with those kids before that?                                        
                                                                               
     Since we are somewhat limited on time, I'd like to have the               
     committee hear testimony from the two expert witnesses who are            
     on line with us this morning.  The first is Dr. Eldo Bergman,             
     Executive Director of the Texas Reading Institute in Houston.             
     Dr. Bergman is also a consultant in child neurology and                   
     developmental medicine in Houston.  He was the recipient of               
     the prestigious Jefferson Award in recognition of outstanding             
     public service, presented by the American Institute for Public            
     Service, Washington, D.C., in 1991.  Dr. Bergman has an                   
     impressive curriculum vitae which is part of your back-up,                
     page 32.  Also on line is Mr. Jimmy Kirkpatrick who was the               
     Coordinator of Community Programs and Advisor for Reading and             
     Reading Disabilities for the University of Texas at Austin.               
     These two gentlemen have been working with states around the              
     nation on this problem and are well versed in the subject and             
     I would commend them to you."                                             
                                                                               
DR. ELDO BERGMAN, testifying via teleconference from Houston,                  
Texas, stated his support for SB 203.  He informed the committee he            
is a child neurologist who became interested in this area when his             
second son was having difficulty learning to read in the first                 
grade.  At the age of 23 his son reached an adult level of reading,            
after a personal struggle of some magnitude.  For the last 15                  
years, Dr. Bergman pointed out he has been involved with two non-              
profit organizations as a non-paid executive director: the                     
Foundation for Independent Learning, and the Texas Reading                     
Institute.   In Texas 85 percent of high school seniors pass the               
state proficiency test, yet 54 percent of students enrolling in                
four year Texas universities need to take classes in remedial                  
reading, writing or math.  In the community college system, the                
percentage is about 73 or 74 percent.                                          
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN indicated that over the last ten years there has been              
a growing consensus among professionals about what is needed within            
the child to have reading instruction stick.  Available data is so             
outstanding now that studies show that approximately 95 percent of             
our general population could be reading at grade level; some of                
those children would require 40 to 80 hours of one-on-one work.  He            
is optimistic that the internet and computer technology will become            
more sophisticated and available to people who generally are not in            
a position to pay much and might provide the intensity of                      
instruction that will be available to between 20 and 25 percent of             
the population.   He stated he has been involved in using talking              
computers as an aid in the classroom to teachers to increase the               
amount of personalized instruction.                                            
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN believes the underlying problem in about 85 percent of             
children who read poorly is that they have problems with rapid                 
sound processing.  There is no ambiguity on that point in the                  
international literature.  Because of that, when children begin to             
try to learn to read, they cannot develop the instinct to recognize            
what sounds are in words and what letters might represent those                
sounds.  To a beginning reader, every new word is a nonsense word              
until it is decoded and meaning is attached to it.  The ability to             
read nonsense words is the most predictive factor of how well a                
child is going to decode words.  Decoding is the biggest single                
factor in comprehension. At the first grade level, decoding                    
explains 82 percent of a first grader's comprehension, while it                
explains 35 percent of a ninth grader's comprehension.   It is now             
known that there are differences within children that really count,            
and those differences must be addressed.  If the differences can be            
found and measured, teachers can structure their instruction so                
that the end result is a balanced development of decoding skills               
and comprehension skills.                                                      
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN stated the question is not how to get the job done, it             
is how many children do we want to be reading at grade level. The              
level that is chosen will dictate how much engineering needs to be             
done to support the teachers, campuses and families to collectively            
do what needs to be done.  The components include phonemic                     
awareness, letter-sound correspondences, the more sophisticated                
word attack skills, spelling, and vocabulary.  Children vary                   
tremendously in the amount of controlled practice they need to                 
develop fluency.  Comprehension strategies are much easier to teach            
if a child can decode the words.                                               
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN informed committee members that he just learned that               
the State of Alabama is going in the direction that Section 3(b) of            
CSSB 203 mandates, that is toward assessment and including some of             
the instruments that are worth considering.  Discussions on reading            
often devolve to methodology.  Methodology depends upon a                      
sensitive, well-trained teacher working with the individual child.             
There is no one method that will work for every child, however, if             
we measure the right things, the instruction can be tailored to                
meet the child's needs.                                                        
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN thought the approach to identifying reading impaired               
children as set out in Section 2(b) to be a good one.  The first               
nationally normed test will identify the reading impaired children.            
The second individually-administered test will evaluate a student's            
skills in the following areas:  word attack; word identification ;             
vocabulary; and reading comprehension.  The problem with group                 
administered tests is that word attack skills and phonemic                     
awareness cannot be effectively tested in a group.                             
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN stated he recently administered the Stanford                       
Achievement Test to students in the Houston Independent School                 
District.  The average performance in first grade is at the 49th               
percentile.  The average performance in second grade is at the 40th            
percentile, and the percentile drops to the 30th percentile for                
middle school students.  Those scores show that the first graders              
are reading at grade level and are at national average.  It also               
shows that by the time students reach the fourth grade, almost 40              
percent of the students are reading at the bottom 16th percentile              
of the national norms.  Ten years ago the Houston Independent                  
School District administered the Metropolitan Achievement Test, the            
last standardized test given other than the criterion referenced               
test provided by the state. The first graders scored at the                    
national norm.  The scores declined as the grade level rose, so                
that by sixth grade the students scored a full year below the                  
national average.   A group administered test will identify, in                
general, weak and strong readers but teachers need the kind of                 
information that will allow them to focus on a particular student's            
area of weakness.  That information can be provided in the second              
tier of testing.                                                               
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN expressed concern that Section 2(c) speaks to the fact             
that teachers should get at least one course on the language basis             
of reading.  Two years ago only four universities out of 1100                  
teachers colleges provided a one semester course like that.                    
Teachers are working with what they have, but we have learned a lot            
in the last 30 years, and especially in the last 10 years.                     
                                                                               
DR. BERGMAN stated he believes assessment is the critical issue.               
One needs a clear way to identify the goal he/she was trying to                
seek to ensure that the methodology worked.   Predictive factors               
that can be measured and tell whether a child will be able to read             
well are word level, word identification decoding skills, and                  
vocabulary.  Assessing those factors in kindergartners will                    
identify 90 percent of the students who will struggle with reading.            
If those children get appropriate instruction in first, second or              
third grade, that instruction will be much less costly than it will            
be in fourth, eighth, or twelfth grade.                                        
                                                                               
JIMMY KIRKPATRICK, Advisor in Reading and Reading Disabilities at              
the University of Texas at Austin, testified via teleconference and            
made the following comments on his own behalf.  There has been much            
attention being placed on the poor non-reading ability of children.            
Alaska is not exempt from this national crisis.  According to the              
published results of the California Achievement Test, 45 percent of            
fourth grade students in Alaska have below average basic reading               
and language skills.  Adding the numbers in special education and              
limited English proficiency, these numbers far exceed 55 percent.              
What does the future hold for these students in the State of                   
Alaska?  For the fortunate ones who make it through by shear                   
determination and willpower, what does college mean for them to                
taxpayers?  Let's examine the number of students required to take              
remedial classes in junior colleges and universities in both                   
reading and math. Texas alone spends nearly $100 million on                    
remedial courses each year.  This number will increase greatly in              
the years to come.  I make this ominous prediction for what the                
education system and the taxpayers of Alaska are looking forward to            
in coming years if changes are not made.  The numbers referred for             
special education, involving reading, spelling, and writing                    
disabilities, will grow at uncontrollable rates.  For example,                 
Houston Independent School District, a district of 217,000                     
students, is the seventh largest district in the nation, and is                
seeing an increase of one percent a year in the special education              
numbers.  My own district, an upper middle district of 50,000                  
students, has seen an increase of 125 percent in the last two years            
for special education.  This is causing them an additional $1                  
million per year in the budget.  As parents become more aware of               
the current research in reading and reading disabilities, these                
numbers will continue a steep incline.  Let's remember that the                
majority students with reading problems were not identified                    
throughout their school years.  The numbers of dropouts are                    
increasing along with the children and their ability to learn to               
read.                                                                          
                                                                               
MR. KIRKPATRICK pointed out that data from the Alaska Department of            
Education shows that $104 million was spent on special education in            
1996, and a little over $107 million in 1997.  There can be a                  
potential savings within three years of over $50 million to the                
state in local districts, as well as the families these programs               
effect.   This is taking into account a conservative figure of                 
$2,000 per year spent above the normal cost of regular education               
per child.  The National Institute of Child Health and Human                   
Development showed that 50 percent of children in special education            
have learning disabilities and that disability covers reading,                 
spelling and writing failure.   Reducing the numbers of students               
with reading failure in the early elementary grades is an                      
obtainable goal for the state.  The Learning First Alliance, made              
up of 12 national education organizations, including the                       
Association for Colleges for Teacher Education, school                         
administrators, school boards, elementary and secondary principals,            
Federation of Teachers, National Education Association, Chief                  
States School Officers, PTA, Education  Commissions of the States,             
and the Association for Curriculum and Supervisors, has developed              
an action plan for reading.  This national action plan - every                 
child a reader - is a giant step forward by this outstanding                   
organization.  They state that reading must be grounded in research            
and that unfortunately, it is also in first grade where common                 
instructional practices are probably most inconsistent with                    
research findings.  By providing a reassessment and accountability,            
the much needed fuel for the engines of change can occur in Alaska.            
This will enable parents, teachers, districts and the state to see             
how well the students are doing.  The additional testing for the               
bottom 25 percent will also provide the type of information that               
teachers need to be able to provide the needed intervention early.             
With these changes occurring, a literate society will grow and                 
prosper well into the 21st Century.                                            
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR found it incredible that people feel threatened by              
SB 203, and that teachers feel the bill is an attempt to affect                
their professionalism or the choices available to them.  SB 203                
merely asks for a system that will have some accountability and                
that will actually produce a result that has been proven time again            
across the United States by testing at all levels.                             
                                                                               
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SENATOR GREEN asked Senator Taylor if he considered that she and he            
might have one idea of what phonics instruction is, while teachers             
might have preferred a broader definition.  She said one does not              
have to get into a discussion on phonics very far to be into one               
particular method, which on the whole could be considered a phonics            
program but is not named as such.  She also asked if he contacted              
the University to determine what courses it is offering within the             
state to fulfill the course requirement.                                       
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN interrupted to accommodate the five people waiting             
to give testimony via teleconference.  He announced the committee              
would schedule another hearing on this bill next week to take                  
additional testimony that cannot be accommodated today.                        
                                                                               
KATHY HUGHES, Curriculum Director for the Fairbanks North Star                 
Borough School District, stated that Fairbanks went through a                  
recent curriculum revision and decided to go with a more balanced              
approach.  For the last ten years, the school district has been                
focused on a whole language approach.  The new curriculum advocates            
phonics, spelling, and vocabulary, and reading has been divided                
into three types of components: experiencing literature, word                  
analysis which includes phonics, and comprehension.  The school                
district is also discussing the kind of staff development it will              
need for successful implementation.  The district is concerned that            
the Legislature may mandate a particular program that requires                 
specific materials outside of the district's designed curriculum.              
Ms. Hughes noted she spoke with Dr. Nick Stayrook, the District's              
Evaluation Director, about the section on testing in SB 203.  He               
informed her that in Fairbanks, the school board did away with                 
normed testing on first graders, based on the testimony of first               
grade teachers.  Those teachers felt that tests like the CAT and               
ITBIS were inappropriate for first graders.  The Governor's Quality            
Schools bill is proposing a comprehensive assessment system which              
has benchmarks at ages 5 through 7 which might accomplish the same             
goal.  She added the increased cost of testing at a time schools               
are tightening budgets will be difficult to absorb.                            
                                                                               
TERRI MORRISON, a teacher with the Fairbanks North Star Borough                
School District Special Programs Title 1 Office, made the following            
comments. CSSB 203 contains explicit language that can be                      
interpreted in different ways and will affect ongoing instruction              
that is effective.  There are many reasons why children struggle to            
acquire reading skills: readiness, oral language skills, listening             
skills, vocabulary, and word recognition problems.  One unifying               
factor that most people agree upon is that children have to learn              
to read with that voice in their head.  They have to know when they            
do not understand.  Some children have memory or tracking problems,            
use inappropriate substitutions, and sometimes children do not get             
the individual attention they need.  Most special programs require             
students to fall behind grade level a certain number of years or               
months before any intervention can be provided.  Appropriate                   
diagnostic information is not always provided through nationally               
normed or standardized tests.  Regarding specific teacher training,            
maybe the focus should be on how to use the data teachers collect              
everyday from students while performing in the classroom.  There               
are very few shared understandings among large groups of educators             
and parents as to exactly what phonics is.  The same is true of                
whole language, although she was trained to view whole language as             
a philosophy rather than a method.  Most people who talk about                 
phonics are talking about specific methods.   However, no program,             
including phonics, will teach itself.  Emphasis has to be placed on            
how teachers deliver instruction, which must be consistent and                 
interactive.  She expressed concern about the phrase in SB 203 that            
requires teachers to provide explicit systematic instruction                   
because a lot of people might view that as a focus on lectures and             
worksheets, rather than on involvement with the student during                 
instruction.  All learning styles must be addressed: all children              
are not visual and all children do not learn through auditory                  
processes which many phonics programs focus on.  She referred to               
the phrase in the bill "incidental instruction" and expressed                  
concern that although it occurs, it is not the same as teaching in             
context.  She asked what data was used to determine the statement              
in the bill that "most instruction teaches phonics only                        
incidentally."                                                                 
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR asked that the witnesses who just testified receive             
copies of the backup materials provided to committee members.                  
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN commented that if the Legislature succeeds in                    
rewriting the foundation formula, there may be greater flexibility             
in how student assessments occur and in how assistance is given,               
because the choice would be with the districts.                                
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR asked what prompted the Fairbanks North Star Borough            
School District to restructure its curriculum after using a whole              
language approach for ten years.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN said he did not              
know.                                                                          
                                                                               
SENATOR TAYLOR stated that he would be willing to look at any                  
research studies that show phonics is not the preferred method of              
teaching reading skills to 70 percent of young students.  He noted             
that learning to read is not an art form, it is a skill that needs             
to be learned through training.                                                
                                                                               
MS. PAMELA JENSEN, a parent, testified via teleconference from                 
Petersburg, and stated she agrees strongly with the content of CSSB
203.  She indicated she submitted written testimony to committee               
members.                                                                       
                                                                               
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MOLLI SIPE, a member of the Alaska Association for Bilingual                   
Education, stated some objections to the language contained in CSSB
203, particularly the phrase that refers to the English language as            
the common language of the United States of America.  The question             
of whether English is the official language has made it to the                 
State ballot, but it has not yet been decided.  She believes this              
phrase comes a little too close and should not be in a bill at this            
time.  MS. SIPE pointed out Alaska has many bilingual two-way                  
immersion programs; CSSB 203 does not address those programs.  She             
also expressed concern that, from her background in applied                    
linguistics, that English was described as a language based on the             
principle of the alphabet.  English is not equal to the sum of its             
parts; English is more than phonics.                                           
                                                                               
DONNA MARSH, testifying via teleconference from Petersburg, stated             
she is a concerned parent who supports SB 203 because if we fail to            
teach our students the skills they need to decipher words, we are              
doing them a great disservice.  The whole language philosophy or               
method does not focus on a lot of the basics.  She noted she will              
submit written testimony to committee members.                                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN announced that there was no further teleconference             
testimony at this time and that CSSB 203 would be scheduled again              
on Monday, February 23, at 9:00 a.m., to take testimony from                   
participants who had signed up to testify today.  He adjourned the             
meeting at 10:49  a.m.                                                         

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